Monday, October 1, 2018

Why Gripen jet a cut above its rivals like F-16V



It’s the Saab made anti-ship missile, stupid!

By Mortz C. Ortigoza

PASAY CITY, Philippines – The Saab Gripen Jas 39 C/D distinctive anti-ship missile looms as a gory warning to lurking enemy warships in the territorial water of the Philippines.
A top executive of the Sweden based multiple role fighter (MRF) jet manufacturer said that Gripen has been a cut above the rest of the fourth generation rivals because of the 434.5 centimeters long 50 cm in diameter's RBS15 anti ship guided smart missile.

“What you’re looking is the Saab missile known as RBS15. This is one of the things that really set apart the Gripen with its competitors. In fact, almost no other modern fighter has a modern anti ship missile integrated. None of them have a weapon attached. The latest version of this missile which we unveiled in the Farnborough Airshow,” Vice President for Communication Robert Hewson told recently this newspaper at the  three days Asian Defense & Security (ADAS) 2018 held recently at the World Trade Center here.

VIDEO: Author being shown by Saab Gripen Vice President for Communication Robert Hewson the  mock- up display of multiple role fighter  multi-billion pesos Gripen Jas 39 C/D and its vaunted long range fire and forget Robot System (RBS) 15 anti-ship missile at the three-day arms expo dubbed as Asian Defense & Security (ADAS) 2018 held recently at the World Trade Center in Pasay City, Philippines.

The distinctive missile that even the United States made F-16 Viper lacks is a game changer.
The Maryland, USA made Viper is the closest rival of the Gripen in the more than sixty billion pesos procurement of the Philippines for an MRF.

The RBS-15 (Robot System 15) is a long-range fire-and-forget surface-to-surface and air-to-surface, anti-ship missile. The later version Mk. III has the ability to attack land targets as well. The missile was developed by the Swedish company Saab Bofors Dynamics (Wikipidea).

 “As I said, there is no other aircraft in the market today or in the market tomorrow that has the capability that matches RBS15. This is very long range, very powerful weapon system,” he answered when asked that F-16 Viper noticeably lacks this huge munition.


The RBS15 is slow, silent, and uses the curvature of the earth to avoid enemy’s radar detection, according to Miguel Svenson, director of technical sales support, missiles system at the Saab Dynamics, in an article titled “Norse power: the RBS15 forges ahead” by Robin Hughes featured at the September, 2018 Jane’s International Defense Review.

“Survivability is a key feature of the RBS15 Mk 3. The missile stays low and silent, utilizing the curvature of the earth for as long as possible. To overcome the prediction algorithims used by FCS (fire control system), in the terminal phase the activated target seekers initiates randomly generated 2D lateral manouevers, enabled by the new variable thrust engine. Normally when maneuvering the air - speed decreases however, the RBS15 Mk 3 is powered all the way to impact, which Svensson said is “very important to ensure that we meet the times for our way points – so if we need to accelerate in headwinds to meet our way point times –then we can do this,” Jane’s continued.
Hewson said despite the edge of the RBS15, Saab unveiled its latest fourth generation version Gung-nir of the anti ship missile at the Farnborough Airshow, England in July 2018.
It can fly to its target 300 kilometers away from its launcher.

“We called it Gung-nir that’s a name from Norse Mythology, Gung-nir, with a spear of Odin which you throw. It never missed. That’s a fantastic name for anti ship missile,” Hewson said after mimicking Oden throwing a spear to emphasize his point.
He said the primary guidance system of RBS15 is its active radar seeking extensively advance developed for many years.

“You have the option to integrate GPS. There is an INS (inertial navigation system). You used the combination of these things depending on the tactical situation. You can fire the missile singly or in salvos. You can program them to come to a different direction but all of them arrived in the same time.  You may not want to fly on the straight line, you may not want to fly in a predictable force”.
When asked if the anti ship guided smart ordnance can “knocked out” a huge Mainland Chinese Frigate that encroaches in the country’s territory, Hewson retorted that it (can) deliver that capability

“This is a supremely effective anti missile system. It is there for the purposes of national defense and delivers that capability”.
At the demonstration video shown in YouTube titled: “Saab Missiles RBS15 Anti-Ship Missile” a decommissioned frigate was torn into half after it was hit on the starboard by the lethal highly resistant long range RBS15 that flew to the target despite the flares, chaffs, and jam released by the vessel.

 Jane's explained that the target seeker features a high power monopulse with frequency agility and a jittered pulse-repetion frequency (PRF). These and other features allow the missile to counter all existing forms of active and passive countermeasures.

“If the target seeker is jammed, RBS15 Mk3 has Home-On-Jam feature that effectively turns it into an anti-radiation missile. The target seeker’s high resolution also features a unique target discrimination capability that contributes to insensitivity to chaff, decoys, and jammers. Additionally, the target seeker’s behavior is software-controlled. This enables the missile to adapt to new threats as they emerge, and for new features to be added thought software updates,” he cited.
According to Svenson it has a payload of 200 kilogram penetrating blast/fragmentation warhead system with a land attack capability is manufactured by TDW, a wholly owned subsidiary of MBDA Germany, although Saab provides the pre-programmable proximity fuze function. The navigational package is developed by Diehl; the adaptive radar altimeter is designed by Thales in France, with software developed by Saab, and the missile’s multi purpose computer hardware produced by Diehl, again with software designed by Saab. Its GPS type depends on the specific customer requirement either a civilian GPS or a United States military grade GPS, in which case it would be government –furnished equipment and supplied by the customer.

Hewson cited that the Gripen Jas 39 C/D carries the RBS 15 under two of its wings.
This is very powerful long range very powerful system”.
He said it can travel 200 kilometer from the launching site that travels like a small turbo jet to the the enemy ship.
Example of the 200 kilometers is the stretch of Subic Bay in Zambales, Province to the Chinese encroached Scarborough Shoal, a part of Masinloc, Zambales which is 198 kilometers.

With the RBS15 Mk 3, we added a huge increase in range (200 km), a new navigation system, many more way points for a highly flexible trajectory, an improved engagement planning capability, and we’ve introduced a new enhanced warhead. We’ve also introduced a GPS for a land attack capability and we’ve reduced the IR (infrared) signature of the missile,” Svensson said on the RBS15 Mk 3 2005 variant.
The in flight missile weight 160 kilogram.

Hewson said he understand the bias of majority of Filipinos in military fora online that passionately discussed the nuances of the F-16 Viper because “people get very emotional, people get attached to aircraft because of their interest to this, people come from enthusiast background and its great to have a debate and discussion about things. And of course I am here to talk about Gripen and other people talk about their aircraft and they will talk about the benefit of their system”. The user has to make an intelligent choice and all I can tell you the capability of the aircraft and they are considerable”.
He said it is still the user, like the Philippines government, who will choose intelligently what is the most applicable to its topography.
Hewson cited the other comparative advantages of the lower maintenance Gripen like its weapon system, avionics versus its competitors. Due to space constraint however this paper will publish their nitty-gritty on its future issues.
To take a sneak peek however how a buyer can save in the maintenance cost in the long run, Gripen force can operate from small airfields or even a highway when no runways are available. It quickly deploy for operations with few personnel and minimum equipment, cited by an excerpt in a brochure given to this paper at the arms expo attended by renowned military manufacturers around the world.

Combat operation can be sustained with no expensive infrastructure, by day and by night and in all weathers. The Gripen design philosophy ensures that expensive and excessive support and logistic demands will never restrict your ability to deploy air power”.
The short- take- off-landing (STOL) Gripen, that needs only 400 meters of paved roadway, is designed to host a formidable arsenal of weaponry. A fully flexible mission capability offers multiple role requirements without changes to software and hardware. It has combined air-to-air and air-to-surface stores carriage that gives the lethal aerial weaponry a true swing – role capability. The lower priced aircraft, based on its utility's life span, has offensive and defensive operations, including reconnaissance that it can conduct in a single mission.


(You can read my selected columns at http://mortzortigoza.blogspot.com and articles at Pangasinan News Aro. You can send comments too at totomortz@yahoo.com)



8 comments:

  1. READERS COMMENTS ON MY POST OF THIS ARTICLE AT FACE BOOK

    JC Dacillo: Just a marketing from the Manufacturer itself, the RBS-15 couldnt compensate the capability gap between their offer and the F-16V Block 70.

    Randy Abela: Is the F16 capable of launching an anti ship missile too?

    JC Dacillo: Harpoon

    Richard Martinez: If you guys want to hear how he sells the E, here it is. I know it's his job but c'mon, some of his statements are clearly marketing bs.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JjOZIm8tlDg

    Ferdinand Senior :Very well said & explain on the capabilities of Gripen..


    Denmark Suede: I agree with his statements but Ph should ask itself, Gripen is cheaper to acquire,operate and very agile , while the F16V is assured of MLSA with the US, can be finance via FMS program, carries more firepower and got more thrust πŸ˜πŸ˜€. Hard choice indeed. Wag lang si Bong Go ang pipili

    ReplyDelete
  2. Bong S. Sudario: Acquire both Gripen And Viper thats it

    Marcelino Jr Paragas : Note it comes with transfer of technology and local produce in PH ... ala ng problema sa spareparts ... only problem is ... not combat proven ang gripen compare to F16 ... short range ang gripen compare to F16 ... while F16 carries more payload than gripen ... at the end ... it is on pilot skills where you see the difference.


    Ferdinand Parayno: PH should look into the reported loss of a JAS 39A in 1989 due to a software glitch in its flight control system.

    From a layman's POV, I think the F15 Eagle is still the all time best territorial defense jet fighter with over a hundred victories in aerial combat and zero losses. If the US would sell and PH can afford, lets go for its updated version, the F15X. They say, the F15x is the F15 on steroids.

    Jerome Jaromahum su 35 the most deadly fighter in the world even american pilots are pissing on thier pants.just hearing its name it can even one on one f22 raptor.

    Shervin Zolina Zaspa: I think su 35 is not a deadly fighter for me is f22 and f35 because it has been using advance tech. And also have great air to air combat

    Shervin Zolina Zaspa: One day the russians wake up and the f22 and f35 is in their skies bombing their cities. Also china's j20 they called it the answer in f22 but in terms of air to air combat f22 and f35 is most advance

    Michael Dizon: The F-22 has superior thrust to weight ratio, it has a higher pitch axis in the thrust vectoring system it has better wing loading and lift loading characteristics. Its drag index is also much better, it has superior vortex lifting properties. CL max is higher.
    The canted tail design captures high dynamic pressures from the forward fuselage allowing it to retain yaw control in near 0 air speed

    This means that the F-22 will be far more maneuverable than the Su-35 across the entire flight envelope.

    Not to mention it has Stealth and an Aesa radar sensor fusion and the AN/ALR-94. Which will make it superior in long range engagements as well.

    Mickey Punzalan: F-22 Raptor will see the Su-35 and fire before the Su-35 will know it has been seen and fired at

    ReplyDelete
  3. Jonas Santiago For the MRF budgeted allocation, we can buy 18 units of Gripen C/D versus 12 for F-16 Block 70 (simply called the F-16V).

    Gal Dean: F-16 viper Block 70 is the Northrop Grumman APG-83 Active Electronically Scanned Array radar that can engage more than 20 simultaneous target with surface detection range of 160 nm. This Gripen C/D Mk4 upgrade the PS-05/A what is the exact specification?

    Jonas Santiago: PS-05/A Mk 4 is an upgrade extending 100% more detection range... from 120 km to 240 km (130 nm) in A2A mode, and 40% more for A2G detection... from 70 km to 98 km. But in A2A dog fight the Gripen C/D beats F-16V in AOA (angle of attack) and combat range, theoretically.

    Gal Dean:, thank you so much for your answer. Satisfied here. Can I have a reference to look about it sir?

    Gal Dean: If you don't mind giving me link that would really nice Jonas Santiago. When you said it beats F-16v or the older F-16 that it in A2A dog fight?

    Michael Dizon: Jonas Santiago

    The Gripen may have a slight AOA advantage but its not a true high Alpha performer due to its single tail design.

    High alpha performers need to have twin tails preferably canted so that they can capture the dynamic pressures produced in the forward fuselage. (F/A-18, F-35 and F-22 all have twin canted tails)

    The F-16 on the other hand has superior energy gain and bleed rates, sustained turn rates and high G maneuvering performance

    Gal Dean Michael Dizon, thank you so much for your reply.

    ReplyDelete
  4. Arlene Manguiat: Lahat naman ng american figther jet e sobrang mahal ng maintenance at yung paglipad nyan di naman natin afford yan .anu b bansa natin mayaman.kaya dun tayo sa mbba ang maintenance at ang paglipad nito ,cheaper pero dbest ang saab

    Shervin Zolina Zaspa: Hindi naman mahirap bansa natin nawawalan lang ng sapat na budget sa modernization dahil sa mga corrupt na opisyal. Kaya sana natin ma afford ang f-16 at ang maintenance nito

    Michael Dizon : I wish you become a pilot. And when you go to war you'll remember the fact that you are flying in the Cheapest jet the government can buy.

    Michael Dizon: The Gripen C was completely dominated by the F-16V in the Slovak evaluation.

    The Viper had better range, better acceleration, better sensors everything was better.

    ReplyDelete
  5. Emmanuel Tiwel Yorac Ok iyan pero pag dating sa dog fight lamang ang F16 block 70 kapag nag laban sila sa air to air combat dog fight.
    1
    Manage
    Like · Reply · 3h · Edited
    Michael Cruz
    Michael Cruz Yan na lang dapat bilin.. Will cost 1 billion dollars extra sa life time maintenance yun f16...
    Manage
    Like · Reply · 3h
    Christopher Christian Sanchez
    Christopher Christian SanchezChristopher Christian and 9 others are consistently creating meaningful discussions with their posts. Besides its anti-ship capability, Saab Marketing must state clearly that JAS-39 can be maintained and operate in austere conditions and with a tight-budgeted Air Force. South African version can be refueled even without the use of a fuel pump.
    1
    Manage
    Like · Reply · 3h
    Michael Cruz
    Michael Cruz Sana we buy gripen kasabay na nga yan.. anti ship ..etc
    1


    Christopher Christian SanchezChristopher Christian and 9 others are consistently creating meaningful discussions with their posts. Michael Cruz , agree but AFP should not discard the plan to increase operational FA-50's.

    Michael Cruz : Christopher Christian Sanchez kaya nga suggest ko 8 muna na mrf at 12 na f50.. best para sa 3rd stage we get E model na kung kaya..

    Charles Khalid: S. Rico I'm all for the Gripen. I just hope we can get the E/F version. But the C/D is still very good. I don't like being exposed to US sanctions, which will happen if we buy the F16V and a new President, obsessed with human rights and hypocrisy, takes over the White House.

    ReplyDelete
  6. Teofilo Estiller Jr.: Aren't the Harpoon short ranged, sea skimming and subsonic? What about the RBS-15 its range, is it sea skimming and supersonic?

    Lee Anthone Navigar Layson: Teofilo Estiller Jr. F16 has been certified to carry US , European , Israeli antiship missile for the last 36 years of weapons integration the list is too long my friend.

    Teofilo Estiller Jr.: Well, l think the PAF MRF charade is already solved.


    Mortz Ortigoza Teofilo Estiller Jr. RBS 15 is long range its latest version Mk 3 is 300 kilometers fire and forget giant munition versus the warship of the Chinks. Its sea skimming and supersonic. Andiyan sa article ko ang explanation ng Saab.

    ReplyDelete
  7. Michael EvidentE: the F16 is cleared to use the Maverick G, the Penguin, the Harpoon

    MicHAEL: Oh, and the JASSM pala, as they now have an upgraded version of the JASSM that could kill ships

    Jasper B Montealto : I wonder if gripen can integrate more powerfull AShM like Super Sonic Bramos

    Jasper B Montealto: the JASSM is stealthier, has an armor penetrator warhead, and a bigger bang.
    Charles Hill FA-18 is going to get the LRASM.

    Michael Evidente: Sir Charles Hill, that's the Charlie version of the JASSM right? A= basic, B= extended range, C= anti-ship?

    Charles Hill: It is related to JASSM, but I have only seen it referred to as the Long Range Anti-Ship Missile (LRASM)

    ReplyDelete
  8. JC Dacillo: Just a marketing from the Manufacturer itself, the RBS-15 couldnt compensate the capability gap between their offer and the F-16V Block 70.

    Randy Abela Is the F16 capable of launching an anti ship missile too?
    JC Dacillo Randy Abela Harpoon

    Teofilo Estiller Jr.: Aren't the Harpoon short ranged, sea skimming and subsonic? What about the RBS-15 its range, is it sea skimming and supersonic?

    Lee Anthone Navigar Layson: Teofilo Estiller Jr. F16 has been certified to carry US , European , Israeli antiship missile for the last 36 years of weapons integration the list is too long my friend

    Teofilo Estiller Jr. Well, l think the PAF MRF charade is already solved.
    Manage
    Like · Reply · 6h
    Mark Machiavelli Ortigoza
    Mark Machiavelli Ortigoza Teofilo Estiller Jr. RBS 15 is long range its latest version Mk 3 is 300 kilometers fire and forget giant munition versus the warship of the Chinks. Its sea skimming and supersonic. Andiyan sa article ko ang explanation ng Saab.

    Lee Anthone Navigar Layson: Teofilo Estiller Jr. Antiship missile certified with the F16? Harpoon , Slamer , maverick , Penguin , SOM , Naval strike Missie , Delilah , Gabriel , Have Rain , Popeye lite ,Popeye lite IR. Popeye lite TV , Japanese antiship missile , HARM , JSOWER ,JASSMER, LRASM ...that's all I can remember for now.

    Lee Anthone Navigar Layson: Mark Machiavelli Ortigoza naval strike missile can attack both land sea Target 550km range hi-hi-low flight profile

    Mark Machiavelli Ortigoza: Lee Anthone Navigar Layson “Survivability is a key feature of the RBS15 Mk 3. The missile stays low and silent, utilizing the curvature of the earth for as long as possible. To overcome the prediction algorithims used by FCS (fire control system), in t…See More

    Lee Anthone Navigar Layson: Mark Machiavelli Ortigoza stealth Ang NSM using passive guidance. RBS uses old active radar guidance... Once the radar of the RBS turns on the ship will be alerted. See radar can help you find the enemy but once it's on. The enemy can find you too. May mga radar earning device Ang aircrafts and ships

    Mark Machiavelli Ortigoza: Lee Anthone Navigar Layson “If the target seeker is jammed, RBS15 Mk3 has Home-On-Jam feature that effectively turns it into an anti-radiation missile. The target seeker’s high resolution also features a unique target discrimination capability that con…See More

    Lee Anthone Navigar Layson: Mark Machiavelli Ortigoza that's not new....sir. Soviets have deployed that technology since 30 years ago... Why would you jam it shoot it down or decoy it.

    David Glazener: So they are selling you a missile, not an aircraft. LOL. Buy the F-16, then buy the missile from Saab. Bahaha

    Lee Anthone Navigar Layson: Mark Machiavelli Ortigoza RBS 15 is also more expensive compared to NSM. That's according to the Poland which actually operates both! Lol personally I preferably the NSM with USAF, USN plus the us army planning to acquire it for it's land based ASM capability. I don't want to be a sole operator of any system.

    Mark Machiavelli Ortigoza Lee Anthone Navigar Layson Is that NSM na stealth nasa F-16 Viper po ba?
    Teofilo Estiller Jr. : Thanks for enlightening sir.

    Lee Anthone Navigar Layson Mark Machiavelli Ortigoza: look what's new the F16 has even been tested for ballistic missiles

    ReplyDelete